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June 25, 2018
ELECTRONIC DELIVERY
Matt Herrera, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Renton
Community and Economic Development Department
1055 South Grady Way
Renton, WA 98057
RE: Responses to Comments
Forest Terrace Subdivision and Lot Line Adjustment
City of Renton File Nos. LUA18-000124 and 125
Our Job No. 18396
Dear Matt:
We have revised the plans and technical documents for the above-referenced project in accordance with
the City of Renton "On Hold" Notice letter dated March 19, 2018 and the Diaz comment letter dated May 2,
2018.
Enclosed are the following documents for your review and approval:
1. Revised Project Narrative prepared by Barghausen Consulting Engineers, Inc. dated June 22,
2018, including:
a. Modification Request – Retaining Wall Height exceeding 72 inches
b. Modification Request for Modified Minor Arterial Street Design
c. Variance Request - Slope Impact
2. Revised SEPA Checklist prepared by Barghausen Consulting Engineers, Inc. dated June 2018
3. Protected Slope Analysis prepared by Terra Associates, Inc. dated June 18, 2018
4. Revised Preliminary Plat Plan Set prepared by Barghausen Consulting Engineers, Inc. dated
June 18, 2018, including:
a. Cover Sheet
b. Preliminary Site Plan
c. Preliminary Utility Plan
d. Preliminary Drainage Plan
e. Preliminary Grading Plan
f. Preliminary Road Profile Plan
g. Preliminary Tree Retention Plan
h. Preliminary Tree Replacement and Landscape Plans
5. Revised Technical Information Report prepared by Barghausen Consulting Engineers, Inc.
dated June 18, 2018.
Matt Herrera, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Renton
Community and Economic
Development Department - 2 - June 25, 2018
The following outline provides each of the comments in italics exactly as written, along with a narrative
response describing how each comment was addressed:
The following four items will need to be submitted before June 18, 2018 so that we may continue
the review of the above subject application:
1. As shown on the preliminary grading plan sheet 5 of 9, portions of the site contain finished
grades that would result in Protected Slopes. Pursuant to RMC 4-4-060M.2 and N.6, slopes
created from cuts and fills shall not result in the creation of permanent slopes 40-percent or
greater which are 15-feet in height, i.e. protected slopes. A revised grading plan that complies
with these grading regulations will be required.
Response: The grading plan for the proposed project has been revised to incorporate
additional retaining walls/rockeries into the design. In general, proposed slopes of 2H:1V will
not exceed 14 feet in height without an additional wall breaking up the overall slope.
2. The grading plan and site sections sheet 6 of 9 identify the stormwater vault containing an
exposed face of up to 8-feet in height. The applicant will need to reduce above-grade vault
exposure to 6-feet and lower. Additionally, aesthetic treatment of the exposed face and ground
level landscaping will be required.
Response: As requested, the fill above the detention vault has been reduced so that the
exposed face on the northwest corner of the vault does not exceed 6 feet in height. A note
regarding aesthetic treatment and approval of landscaping has been added to Sheet 6 of 9.
3. The modified minor arterial street section along Union Ave NE will require a modification
application. The modified minor arterial standard would require a right of way width of 81'. The
paved roadway width required would be 44' consisting of 2 — 11' travel lanes, 1 12' travel lane,
and 2 - 5' bike lanes. A 0.5' curb, 8' planter; 8' sidewalk, and 2' clear at the back of sidewalk
are required along each side of the roadway. A right of way dedication of approximately 10.5'
along the Union Avenue NE frontage will be required to provide a half street right of way width
of 40.5'. The application form can be found on the City's CED Forms page by searching for
"City Documents" in the search bar on the City of Renton website. The modification fee is
$262.50.
Response: A modification for the modified minor arterial standard is included as part of the
Project Narrative, as requested.
4. The minimum Horizontal separation between the water line and the 2 storm lines shall be 10
feet. Please relocate the storm lines to provide the 10-foot separation. The City will accept a
minimum of 7.5 feet of horizontal separation between the water line and the storm line (outside
wall to outside wall) if a city approved restrained joint pipe system and fittings are provided for
the water line in addition to concrete blocking at the fittings.
Response: The plans have been revised so that the second storm line has been eliminated.
The following two items below are advisory and will need attention during the construction
permitting stage of the proposal:
Matt Herrera, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Renton
Community and Economic
Development Department - 3 - June 25, 2018
1. The street and water/sewer mains need to be extended to the west edge of the property line.
A blow-off assembly shall be required at the end cap for the water main and manhole for the
sewer main will need to be located within a paved surface.
Response: The water and sewer mains have been extended to the west property line. A note
regarding a blow-off has been added to Sheet 3. A paved access will be provided to the sewer
manhole. Actual details of the extension will be provided during final engineering.
2. There is an existing 12" ductile iron dead end water main east of the site in Union Avenue NE
that can deliver a maximum flowrate of 1,240 gallons per minute (gpm). Reference Project File
WTR2702847 in COR Maps for record drawings. The flow restriction is due to a 300' section
of 8" water main in Union Avenue NE from NE 25th Street to the north property line of Sierra
Heights Elementary School. If this 300' section of 8" pipe is replaced with a new 12" pipe, the
flowrate of the existing 12" main in Union Avenue NE from of the development will increase to
approximately 3,000 gpm. The maximum flow rate of the internal water main will be limited to
1,240 gpm unless the 300' section of 8" pipe in Union Avenue NE is replaced with a 12" main
as indicated above. Residential buildings that have over 3,600 square feet of gross building
areas may have fire flow demand of 1,500 gpm or more. Please verify with the Renton Regional
Fire Authority to determine the preliminary fire flow demand and size the water main(s)
accordingly to provide adequate flow to the new hydrants.
Response: Comment noted. These offsite improvements will be evaluated during final
engineering once house sizes are determined. The applicant acknowledges that if the
improvements are not constructed that automatic fire sprinklers will likely be required.
Public Comment Letter from Tricia and John Diaz dated May 2, 2018
Zoning. The proposed subdivision and adjoining properties are included in the King County
Proposed Annexation Area (PAA). While not required as part of the Hearing Examiner
determination, we formally request that City of Renton's Planning Division consider the opportunity
to plan, coordinate and synchronize the PAA area. Spacing and typical transportation classification
for motorized and pedestrian use will define future opportunities. While the City of Renton cannot
dictate future development, with proper planning and forethought community infrastructure and
utilities can promote "good planning" and facilitate healthy, safe growth. To be specific, the spacing
of the north south access road will constrain or restrain future growth. A north south residential road
(shown in red in the imagery below) too close to Union Avenue causes vehicular safety, access,
and neighborhood circulation issues – a primary reason why most municipal codes have strict
guidelines on neighborhood residential roads.
Response: The project is designed per City of Renton standards for connectivity and R-4 zoning
requirements. The north-south Road B was provided in the location shown as required by the City
of Renton to provide for future connectivity to potentially developable property to the north.
The proposed subdivision the ability for future connections as shown on the preliminary plans. The
east west future connection makes perfect logic; however, a south connection is problematic due
to steep slopes. The natural connection in order to provide fire safety, access and circulation is to
the north; however, there are multiple existing single family residences that limit access points
along SE 95th Way. As outlined in PAA and Land Use objectives for both King County and the City
of Renton, there is a “long term” need for complete streets and safe residential roads. The north
south alignments shown in green below illustrate safe, access points.
Matt Herrera, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Renton
Community and Economic
Development Department - 4 - June 25, 2018
Response: Road B was provided in the location shown as required by the City of Renton to provide
for future connectivity to potentially developable property to the north. The east-west Road A will
be an opportunity for future connectivity to properties west of the site as development occurs.
(Road B_1a) What is the purpose and classification of this roadway? It clearly illustrates operations
and maintenance of Tract B's stormwater facility; however, it appears to serve as a future road
connection north for future development.
Response: Road B was provided in the location shown as required by the City of Renton to provide
for future connectivity to developable property to the north. The classification of Road B is
Residential Access. As an interim condition, until such time that future potential development to
the north occurs, Road B will provide a connection to the Forest Terrace project's emergency
secondary access as required by the City of Renton.
(Road B_2a) The current location of Roadway B fails to meet zoning code requirements (sections
4-6-060 STREET STANDARDS (G) and (H)). A future connection at this location negatively
impacts future growth in parcels 334510-0450 and impedes infrastructure and utility connections.
A "north-south" neighborhood connect is better provided 1500 feet west of Union Road. The
proposed subdivision roadway is almost 1150 feet from centerline (Union Road) to center of cul-
de-sac creating special conditions for fire safety and access, a secondary access route is needed.
Response: Road B was provided in the location shown as required by the City of Renton to provide
for future connectivity to developable property to the north (satisfying RMC 4-6-060-H). The design
of Road B provides for a complete street section (satisfying RMC 4-6-060.G). The connection
location could serve a group of parcels that are owned by the same family, which are more likely
to be developed than smaller properties owned by separate parties (see below).
Preliminary TIR notes upstream contributory areas, but does not review current situation. The
topography currently breaks into two downstream paths. The currently omitted path absent from
the TIR runs down the combined utility easement to the v-ditch then travels westward. The site
topography clearly illustrate a draw between lots 12 and 13. This draw sheet flows onto our property
eventually contributing to May Creek. The upstream surficial flows are important to our native plant
vegetation. Diversion of this flow negatively impacts the native salmonberry, ferns and salil that
receive surface water from the upstream slopes. While not a designated wildlife trail or area, the
Matt Herrera, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Renton
Community and Economic
Development Department - 5 - June 25, 2018
area serves as a native species habitat and access way up to the park and school areas. Diverting
surficial and sub surficial flows could and most likely will impact the native species currently on tax
lot 334510-0450. Soil conditions in Test pits 8 and 9 depict shallows infiltration are feasible.
Dispersion techniques are required to "mimic" current hydrology patterns and not damage
downstream native growth. The engineer downstream analysis omits the current which receives
offsite upstream flows (approximately 3.8 acres), then conveys them along the Olympic
Pipeline/Puget Sound Energy Easement to a roadway ditch running parallel and on the south side
of SE 95th Way. The Preliminary TIR downstream analysis omits the second flow path. Downslope
storm water impacts. King County Parks and Stormwater Division worked collaboratively on fish
and plant restoration of downstream May Valley Creek. The Level I downstream analysis does not
reflect the upstream contributory and splits. Redirecting flows most likely will affect current stream
flow rates and locations negatively affecting salmonid and biohabitat in May Valley Creek.
Retention of native biodiversity is critical for environmental stewardship. King County May Creek
Fish Habitat project impacts for degradation of the not just water quality, flow rates and nutrients
are critical to salmonid habitat. Upstream flow rates, water quality and quantity require special
modeling and studies. While the Preliminary TIR recommends that a Level II TIR is not required,
we disagree due to the significance of downstream habitat, terrestrial and stream.
Response: The offsite drainage analysis and preliminary drainage plans have been updated to
show the collection of the upstream basin and discharge at its natural location. The upstream basin
that flows onto the property on the southwest portion of the property and into the onsite draw will
be collected and routed to the north boundary and discharged via a level spreader where the draw
fades out at the property line. This basin will continue to flow in a northerly direction until it is
intercepted by the roadside ditch along S.E. 95th Way. Based upon site visits and a review of
known information, runoff within the ditch will flow easterly towards the intersection of Union Avenue
N.E.
All runoff generated onsite will be detained and treated for water quality. Upon discharging to a
roadside ditch in Union Avenue N.E., stormwater will combine at the intersection of S.E. 95th Way
with the previously mentioned upstream basin and continue to flow along the natural flow path,
ultimately discharging into May Creek. For further detail, please refer to the Downstream Drainage
Analysis in the updated TIR.
Based on our analysis, it is our professional opinion that a Level 2 Downstream Analysis is not
required for this development.
Safety, environmental and engineering issues are omitted related to the Olympic natural gas
pipeline both in plans, TIR, environmental checklist and studies. The easement clearly shows two
types of utilities, Puget Power and Olympic Natural Gas. The geotechnical report does not evaluate
cuts over sensitive slopes and utilities, specifically, the natural gas pipeline. The developer
proposes final grading consisting of both cut and fill over the existing pipe. There is no discussion
of temporary construction techniques for areas where heavy construction activity traverses over or
creates overburden loads onto the pipe. The omission of the Olympic Natural Gas pipeline
easement, assessment and special engineering recommendations to mitigate safety and
environmental risks does not generate confidence in the developer’s due diligence, especially his
professional staff.
Response: The applicant is aware of the Olympic Natural Gas (ONG) pipeline and easement.
The SEPA Checklist has been revised to include references to the existing natural gas pipeline.
Matt Herrera, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Renton
Community and Economic
Development Department - 6 - June 25, 2018
During the final engineering process, the applicant will coordinate with both Puget Sound Energy
and Olympic Natural Gas for permits and construction requirements/methods.
Sensitive slope grading adjacent to properties. Our parcel has a terraced rockery. The geotechnical
engineer should define grading or slope treatment such that development does not impact adjacent
homeowner property.
Response: A geotechnical report has been prepared and submitted along with the preliminary plat
application. No impacts to adjacent properties were identified due to the proposed grading
activities.
Hazard trees need to be identified. Over 1,000 trees were inventoried, yet zero were identified as
"hazard" trees. The arborist must identify hazard trees and the developer must sequence the
removal or harvest of trees such that they do not create a public safety hazard to adjacent homes.
This is specifically the case for our parcel.
Response: The project arborist identified trees that were in poor health and not to be counted as
retained. During construction activities the project arborist will be retained to evaluate construction
activities on trees that are to be saved. At that time trees deemed to be a hazard will be slated for
removal.
Sanitary sewer connection. Location of sanitary sewer to support homeowner connects north and
south of proposed subdivision. We would like to transition our current septic system to Renton
utilities for sewerage.
Response: The Diaz property is located outside of the City limits and is within a different sewer
basin than the proposed project. Due to significant elevation differences it is impossible to provide
gravity sewer service to the Diaz property via the proposed onsite sewer.
We believe that the above responses, together with the enclosed revised plans and technical documents,
address all of the comments in the City of Renton "On Hold" Notice letter dated March 19, 2018 and the
Diaz comment letter dated May 2, 2018. Please review and approve the enclosed at your earliest
convenience. If you have questions or need additional information, please do not hesitate to contact me at
this office. Thank you.
Respectfully,
Ivana Halvorsen
Senior Planner
IH/lb [18396c.004.docx]
enc: As Noted
cc: Kyle Lublin, Pulte Homes of Washington, Inc. (w/enc)
Thomas A. Barghausen, Barghausen Consulting Engineers, Inc.
Barry J. Talkington, Barghausen Consulting Engineers, Inc.