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Home My WebLink AboutStaff and Applicant CorrespondenceFrom: Benjamin Radin <benradin@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 4:00 PM To: Angelea Weihs Subject: Re: FW: Questions about Fences Hi Angelea, The product will either be cedar lattice like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/7-16-in-x-24-in- x-8-ft-Cedar-Privacy-Framed-Lattice-SP-6046/100021540 Or metal panels similar to this: https://www.wayfair.com/Matrix-Decor-Screens--70.8-In.-X- 17.7-In.-Fern-Decorative-Fence-Extension-Panel-With-Slimline-Metal-Frame-Black- BFN1804CH-L3361-K~MDRS1035.html?refid=GX528841925424- MDRS1035&device=m&ptid=1299770987468&network=g&targetid=pla- 1299770987468&channel=GooglePLA&ireid=147021677&fdid=1817&gclid=CjwKCAjw3_KI BhA2EiwAaAAlirQ43F51rn3bY0_Ff38QKd8TgQQcMqGK- y0JaBL5LEd4nQcIqpftuRoCsG4QAvD_BwE Sincerely, Ben On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:05 AM Angelea Weihs <AWeihs@rentonwa.gov> wrote: Hello Ben, I would be best for you to provide a specific product or at least several options that you like, otherwise the decision may include conditions of approval that may limit your creative choice. CAUTION: This email originated from outside the City of Renton. Do not click links, reply or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Thank you, Angelea Weihs Associate Planner City of Renton | 425-430-7312 1055 South Grady Way Renton WA, 98057 COVID-19 UPDATE City Hall is currently closed to the public but we are still available to assist you. · Pay Invoice and Apply for Over-the-Counter Permit: Permitting Portal · Schedule an Inspection: Permitting Portal -OR- Building: 425-430-7202; Civil/Site: 425-430-7203 · Contact Staff: o Building or General Permitting: permittech@rentonwa.gov or 425-430-7200 o Planning: planningcustomerservice@rentonwa.gov or 425-430-7294 o Public Works Permitting: pwpermitting@rentonwa.gov or 206-402-8626 o Code Compliance: Renton Responds or 425-430-7373. From: Benjamin Radin <benradin@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 9:32 AM To: Angelea Weihs <AWeihs@Rentonwa.gov> Subject: Re: FW: Questions about Fences Hi Angelea, Apologies for the lack of detail on the privacy screen. The scale to show the whole length of fence didnt afford a good view of that. Additionally, I don't have an exact product specd yet for the lattice. Ideally it would be a tight lattice with minimal visibility through it as that is what will be blocking the view from people up on the play structure. I have also seen some nice metal panel options with small slot openings that might work as well. (E.g. https://www.wayfair.com/Matrix-Decor-Screens--70.8-In.-X-17.7-In.-Fern- Decorative-Fence-Extension-Panel-With-Slimline-Metal-Frame-Black-BFN1804CH-L3361- K~MDRS1035.html?refid=GX528841925424- MDRS1035&device=m&ptid=1299770987468&network=g&targetid=pla- 1299770987468&channel=GooglePLA&ireid=147021677&fdid=1817&gclid=CjwKCAjw3_KI BhA2EiwAaAAlirQ43F51rn3bY0_Ff38QKd8TgQQcMqGK- y0JaBL5LEd4nQcIqpftuRoCsG4QAvD_BwE) Whichever way we go, the more privacy I can have with the upper screen the better. If I need to spec the exact product and provide a more detailed elevation, please let me know and I would be happy to do so. Thanks! Ben CAUTION: This email originated from outside the City of Renton. Do not click links, reply or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 9:07 AM Angelea Weihs <AWeihs@rentonwa.gov> wrote: Hello Ben, I did not see that 2nd page. Thank you for the clarification. Is it possible for you to provide a photo example of the fence? Is the picture below a good example? The lattice in the rendering appears to be nearly completely opaque with pin dot openings. I’m not sure if that is what is intended. How large in inches are the lattice openings? Thank you, Angelea Weihs Associate Planner City of Renton | 425-430-7312 1055 South Grady Way Renton WA, 98057 COVID-19 UPDATE City Hall is currently closed to the public but we are still available to assist you. · Pay Invoice and Apply for Over-the-Counter Permit: Permitting Portal · Schedule an Inspection: Permitting Portal -OR- Building: 425-430-7202; Civil/Site: 425-430-7203 · Contact Staff: o Building or General Permitting: permittech@rentonwa.gov or 425-430-7200 o Planning: planningcustomerservice@rentonwa.gov or 425-430-7294 o Public Works Permitting: pwpermitting@rentonwa.gov or 206-402-8626 o Code Compliance: Renton Responds or 425-430-7373. From: Benjamin Radin <benradin@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 5:09 PM To: Angelea Weihs <AWeihs@Rentonwa.gov> Subject: Re: FW: Questions about Fences Hi Angelea, The elevation is on the 2nd page of the Plan Drawings (P_SPECIAL_FENCE_PERMIT_RADIN_160821_V1.PDF). I only showed the elevation of the section that I'm requesting the height extension for, but I would be happy to provide additional elevations as needed. The highlighted area could be at either height, I think aesthetically it would look good to match height with the top of the rest of the fence run, though the gate itself would only be 6' tall. With that being said, I would be happy to reduce the height of that section to 6' if that is preferable. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Thank you for your consideration. CAUTION: This email originated from outside the City of Renton. Do not click links, reply or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Sincerely, Ben On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 4:57 PM Angelea Weihs <AWeihs@rentonwa.gov> wrote: Hello Ben, This special fence permit has been assigned to me for review. The only necessary item that is missing is the elevations as indicated in the attached handout. An example of elevations is included. I also had one question for clarification. Will the highlighted area below also be 10 feet? Once I get that additional information, I will send you an invoice for payment before I begin processing. Have a great day! Angelea Weihs Associate Planner City of Renton | 425-430-7312 1055 South Grady Way Renton WA, 98057 COVID-19 UPDATE City Hall is currently closed to the public but we are still available to assist you. · Pay Invoice and Apply for Over-the-Counter Permit: Permitting Portal · Schedule an Inspection: Permitting Portal -OR- Building: 425-430-7202; Civil/Site: 425-430-7203 · Contact Staff: o Building or General Permitting: permittech@rentonwa.gov or 425-430-7200 o Planning: planningcustomerservice@rentonwa.gov or 425-430-7294 o Public Works Permitting: pwpermitting@rentonwa.gov or 206-402-8626 o Code Compliance: Renton Responds or 425-430-7373. From: Benjamin Radin <benradin@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 10:38 AM To: Planning Customer Service <PlanningCustomerService@rentonwa.gov>; PermitTech <PermitTech@Rentonwa.gov> Subject: Re: Questions about Fences Hello, I have my permit application ready to submit, since the office is closed to drop ins, do I need to schedule an appointment or can I submit electronically? I have attached the application and required documents to this email as well. Thanks, Ben CAUTION: This email originated from outside the City of Renton. Do not click links, reply or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 10:20 AM Planning Customer Service <PlanningCustomerService@rentonwa.gov> wrote: Hello, Ben – A fence that “straddles” a property line would not be entirely on your property and would therefore require consent from the adjoining property owner. Most homeowners build fences entirely on their property in order to have complete control of the structure and make future maintenance, repairs, or replacement a non-issue with current or future neighbors. Regarding your inquiry about exceeding fence height limits, please see the attachment to review our special fence permit process and standards. The current fee for this permit is $160 plus a 5% technology surcharge. Please email with any other questions. Thank you, Planning Customer Service City of Renton | CED | Planning Department 1055 S Grady Way | 6th Floor | Renton, WA 98057 (425) 430-7294 | planningcustomerservice@rentonwa.gov COVID-19 UPDATE: City Hall is currently closed to the public but we are still available to assist you. •Pay Invoice and Apply for Over-the-Counter Permit: Permitting Portal •Schedule an Inspection: Permitting Portal -OR- Building: 425-430-7202; Civil/Site: 425-430-7203 •Contact Staff: Building or General Permitting: permittech@rentonwa.gov or 425-430-7200 Planning: planningcustomerservice@rentonwa.gov or 425-430-7294 Public Works Permitting: pwpermitting@rentonwa.gov or 206-402-8626 Code Compliance: Renton Responds or 425-430-7373. From: Benjamin Radin <benradin@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:25 PM To: Planning Customer Service <PlanningCustomerService@rentonwa.gov> Subject: Re: Questions about Fences Certainly! It's 274 Thomas Ave SW, Renton, WA 98057. Right next to the Earlington Park. Please let me know if you need any other information. Sincerely Ben On Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 5:23 PM Planning Customer Service <PlanningCustomerService@rentonwa.gov> wrote: Hi Ben, Could you please respond with your property address? I didn’t see it included in your previous email. It would be helpful to have this information so that we can verify that you’re within the City’s jurisdictional boundary and so that we can have a better understanding of your situation. CAUTION: This email originated from outside the City of Renton. Do not click links, reply or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Thank you, Planning Customer Service City of Renton | CED | Planning Department 1055 S Grady Way | 6th Floor | Renton, WA 98057 (425) 430-7294 | planningcustomerservice@rentonwa.gov From: Benjamin Radin <benradin@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 11:38 AM To: Planning Customer Service <PlanningCustomerService@rentonwa.gov> Subject: Re: Questions about Fences Thank you for the prompt response, I reviewed the handout and your answers and still had 2 questions: -Can a fence be built that straddles the property line (i.e. the property line goes through the middle of the fence) or does it need to be completely on my side of the line, and if so, does that include the footings or just the stuff above ground? -Is there any possibility of an exception to the 5' setback for a fence taller than 72", given that it is next to a public park and would not have any bearing on safety sightlines for the CAUTION: This email originated from outside the City of Renton. Do not click links, reply or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. road? My house is only about 8' from the property line on the park side, so the setback would put the fence in the middle of the small path alongside the house, and as I mentioned previously, a 6' fence provides little privacy due to the park being 3 or 4' higher in elevation than that side of my lot. Sincerely, Ben On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:38 AM Planning Customer Service <PlanningCustomerService@rentonwa.gov> wrote: Hi Ben, We have a handout that explains our rules regarding fences that may provide more information, a link to that handout is available here. I have also provided responses to your individual questions below. Thanks, Planning Customer Service PlanningCustomerService@rentonwa.gov COVID-19 UPDATE City Hall is currently closed to the public but we are still available to assist you. · Pay Invoice and Apply for Over-the-Counter Permit: Permitting Portal · Schedule an Inspection: Permitting Portal -OR- Building: 425-430-7202; Civil/Site: 425-430-7203 · Contact Staff: o Building or General Permitting: permittech@rentonwa.gov or 425-430-7200 o Planning: planningcustomerservice@rentonwa.gov or 425-430-7294 o Public Works Permitting: pwpermitting@rentonwa.gov or 206-402-8626 o Code Compliance: Renton Responds or 425-430-7373. From: Benjamin Radin <benradin@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 3:34 PM To: PermitTech <PermitTech@Rentonwa.gov>; Planning Customer Service <PlanningCustomerService@rentonwa.gov> Subject: Questions about Fences Hello Renton Permit and Planning Departments, First of all I apologize if I have not emailed the correct departments. I have thoroughly reviewed RMC 4-4-040 and despite that I have a couple of questions about building a residential fence. 1) I did not see any reference to how close a fence may be built to a property line, or if it can be built right on the property line. Is there a limitation on this, and if so, does it apply to the face of the fence, the edges of the posts, the edges of the footings, etc? There are no setback requirements for fences up to 72” along any side or rear property line or for any fence up to 48” in height located along a front or secondary front property line. An 8’ landscaped setback is required for a fence with a height up to 72” along any secondary front yard. CAUTION: This email originated from outside the City of Renton. Do not click links, reply or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. 2) Does construction of a residential side and rear yard fence not abutting a street or alley require a permit? No a permit is not required for a fence up to 72” along a side or rear property line. 3) What is the correct process for requesting an administrative review in order to build a fence taller than 72"? My property abuts a public park and a 6' fence would not provide much privacy due to the park being at a slightly higher elevation and there being a play structure on the side nearest my property. A fence exceeding 72” would be required to comply with the appropriate side or rear yard setbacks for residential structures applicable to your zoning designation (i.e. in an R-8 zone the portion of the fence above 72” would need to be setback 20 feet from the rear property line and 5 feet from a side property line) and would also require a Special Fence Permit, an application for a special fence permit is available here. Thank you very much for your assistance with these questions. Sincerely, Ben